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Nothing to see here. it works
QUOTE(Pam @ Dec 16 2006, 10:45 PM) 
Nothing to see here. it works
your right pam nothing to see here
dont know why i bothered to look
Me neither.
cant start a new topic
I think its a spam-safty feature
not sure?
I think its a spam-safty feature
not sure?
You have 8 posts and are classed as a full member, should be fine. Try PMing me and see if that's ok. 
Tallship I think that Toby explained that you would have to post 5 posts before you'd become a full member, regardless of how many posts you already posted before the new system (does that make sense?!). We saddoes just didn't notice as it doesn't take us long to rack up 5 posts!
Posting so that I can start a thread
again
I dislike having to wait so long to reply and bump my post count to 8. I have an important post I must make before I go to bed. Surely a wait of a few seconds would stop spam bots ?
Bugger zero post, seems my posts here don't even count. Oh well, off to the forums, I hope I can make 8 constructive posts quickly.
again
I dislike having to wait so long to reply and bump my post count to 8. I have an important post I must make before I go to bed. Surely a wait of a few seconds would stop spam bots ?
Bugger zero post, seems my posts here don't even count. Oh well, off to the forums, I hope I can make 8 constructive posts quickly.
Seriously - what is so important about you that the rest of us have to read your new thread?
I'm sure (in fact positive) there is already a thread available for whatever earth shatteringly important news you have to import so use one of those.
I'm sure (in fact positive) there is already a thread available for whatever earth shatteringly important news you have to import so use one of those.
QUOTE(Sarah lady @ Jan 17 2007, 10:57 AM)
Tallship I think that Toby explained that you would have to post 5 posts before you'd become a full member, regardless of how many posts you already posted before the new system (does that make sense?!)
Not really Sarah. I checked Toby's post and attheend's membership status before I posted my reply...
QUOTE(Toby @ Dec 12 2006, 12:50 PM)
I have now implemented a two-tier membership system for this Forum in order to keep out the worst of the automated spam attacks. Existing defences such as 'captcha' image verification and email verification of members are not adequate.
New Members cannot start new topics or use the PM or email system, but can reply to existing topics. New Members become Full Members once they have posted five replies, and will then enjoy those features.
If you have posted more than five messages before the new system was introduced and are still listed as a New Member, post once more and you will be bumped up to the Full Members group automatically.
I'm sorry to have to penalise the legitimate, occasional visitor here, but the frequency and sophisticated nature of spam 'bot' attacks on forums and other interactive web applications have made this necessary.
I then checked attheend's post dates and sure enough he'd posted seven times before the new system was introduced so paragraph three of Toby's post applied.
Anyway, I later discovered that a post in this thread may not add to your post count but it must elevate you to 'Full Member' status if you are elegible because attheend's eighth post was to start a new thread in the 'Music - Other Artists' forum. So all's well that ends well.
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Come on Shay, pick it up, you've only got 4 posts in the last 24 hours. You can do better!!
shocking int it! 
I recommend lessons from KoJ! It doesn't even look like are trying anymore...
hello hello
What's 'troll like' about bringing up that profound article ''Conscious’ Rap That Isn’t''?
If you just can't get that (whether you say anything about it online or not) might be a reason why you might think I don't belong on this forum.
Of course the article might be rubbish.
Am I presumptious to believe that a majority of people on this forum (if they ever read that article in the last post) would think it was rubbish?
In ten seconds just sitting here, I have reeled off the names of ten people (in my mind) who I'm sure would say that it is.
I think McW is spot on.
Anyway, about progressive politics. Everyone knows who that is Im sure.
While reading The Voice nespaper yesterday, there was an feature in it about Rebecca Walker, daughter of Alice. Now if you don't follow these things too closely (like me) you may presume that Alice Walker is some kind of modern day saint, in the same mold as Maya Angelou.
So I was surprised to read of her daughter saying that she and her mother had been estranged for some years.
The day feminist icon Alice Walker resigned as my mother
''The Color Purple brought Alice Walker global fame, but her strident views led to an irreconcilable rift, her daughter tells ''.
Surprised somewhat, but then when I read some more, and then looked up a couple of articles (like this) on google, not really so surprised at all.
As you may have come to know, I have always had my suspicions at what I consider to be the flakier end of feminism and race politics.
This is what Rebecca Walker said of her mother (and I presume, her mothers associates):
And btw, on Maya Angelou. I said it on this forum over 18 months ago.
About when she read that poem at Bill Clinton's Inauguration in 1993.
When I watched that on TV back then, I remember thinking to myself: ''nice poem, but is it based on bullshit?''
If you don't remember it, here it is on you tube.
If you just can't get that (whether you say anything about it online or not) might be a reason why you might think I don't belong on this forum.
Of course the article might be rubbish.
Am I presumptious to believe that a majority of people on this forum (if they ever read that article in the last post) would think it was rubbish?
In ten seconds just sitting here, I have reeled off the names of ten people (in my mind) who I'm sure would say that it is.
I think McW is spot on.
Anyway, about progressive politics. Everyone knows who that is Im sure.
QUOTE
Alice Malsenior Walker (born February 9, 1944) is an American author and feminist (although she prefers the word Womanist). She received the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1983 for her critically acclaimed novel The Color Purple.
While reading The Voice nespaper yesterday, there was an feature in it about Rebecca Walker, daughter of Alice. Now if you don't follow these things too closely (like me) you may presume that Alice Walker is some kind of modern day saint, in the same mold as Maya Angelou.
So I was surprised to read of her daughter saying that she and her mother had been estranged for some years.
The day feminist icon Alice Walker resigned as my mother
''The Color Purple brought Alice Walker global fame, but her strident views led to an irreconcilable rift, her daughter tells ''.
Surprised somewhat, but then when I read some more, and then looked up a couple of articles (like this) on google, not really so surprised at all.
As you may have come to know, I have always had my suspicions at what I consider to be the flakier end of feminism and race politics.
This is what Rebecca Walker said of her mother (and I presume, her mothers associates):
QUOTE
“People don’t really understand how strong ideology can be,” she says. “I think sometimes of that group and that feminism as being close to a cult. I feel I had to de-programme myself in order to have independent thought. It’s been an ongoing struggle. When you have a cult, you have a cult leader who demands a certain conformity . . . And when you have a celebrity who has cultural-icon status, economic power beyond what you can imagine, you can’t resist that person — if you want to stay in their realm. Because once you start challenging them, they kick you out.”
And btw, on Maya Angelou. I said it on this forum over 18 months ago.
About when she read that poem at Bill Clinton's Inauguration in 1993.
When I watched that on TV back then, I remember thinking to myself: ''nice poem, but is it based on bullshit?''
If you don't remember it, here it is on you tube.
Sunday morning I went along to this session called: Is abuse ruining football?, then to this one called ''The Battle for Progress'' which I mentioned the other day on the Progressive Politics thread.
As well as Professor Leela Gandhi who I have already said I thought was very good, Professor Ashis Nandy was really good too.
A slightly eccentric (and funny) intellectual .......the kind of person who make a very entertaining speaker at a public event like this.
Next up was a session called: Is our behaviour determined by our evolution?
As I can't remember it very well now - most of it probably went over my head.
Then in the afternoon came another good one: Radicalism then and now: the legacy of 1968
The (non Spiked) speakers I have higlighted were really good.
Simon Fanshawe is very funny.
Sure, Minette Marrin might be a bit right wing these days, but in 1968 she was a young student at Cambridge, and had some tales to tell of that time.
But it wasn't all just fun and nostalgia. The founder of Time Out magazine thought the radical left at the time were responsible for squandering many chances of moving society foreward (with their revolutionary romanticism).
Second to last session I went to (with six others going on at the same time) was What does it mean to be an American?
This was quite fun too, as one of the invited speakers was a radical (anti-Bush, anti-imperialist) conspiracy theorist.
And last one of the day was a toss up between: From Fatwa to Jihad. The Rushdie Affair and its legacy
and: Free speech on campus - Should we ditch No Platform?
I ended going to the latter one, just to see how it would go. The speaker supporting ''No Platform'' for fascists and assorted Islamic extremists was Wes Streeting, the President of the National Union of Students. He gave it his best shot, but he was out on his own really and didn't get much backing from the skeptical audience. But it was good natured.
Obviously I can see that this politics does not go down well on this forum, and rather than being seen for what it says of itself (a battle of ideas), the way some people view things, this will just de dismissed as ''something off the internet''.
Where that leaves a thread like ''What are progressive politics?'' I don't know.
It would seem that personal debating skills are more important than ideas themselves.
Whereas, I see the importance being the other way round.
Of course I understand why some people had one quick look at the Spiked stuff and said ''No Way'' - but I think it's an aquired taste.
They don't help their cause by being too OTT sometimes, (as well as there being some grandstanding and egos involved), but when I remember that fox hunting can't even be discussed on this forum because of the passions it can arouse (from those opposed to it), I know they can't be wrong about everything.
Even when they are wrong, they are getting something right IMO. And that is, being broad minded, and willing to look that bit further.
Many of the sessions were filmed by FORA.tv, so hopefully I'll be able to see some of the stuff I missed when they put it online.
As well as Professor Leela Gandhi who I have already said I thought was very good, Professor Ashis Nandy was really good too.
A slightly eccentric (and funny) intellectual .......the kind of person who make a very entertaining speaker at a public event like this.
Next up was a session called: Is our behaviour determined by our evolution?
As I can't remember it very well now - most of it probably went over my head.
Then in the afternoon came another good one: Radicalism then and now: the legacy of 1968
The (non Spiked) speakers I have higlighted were really good.
Simon Fanshawe is very funny.
QUOTE
Speakers:
Maria Grasso
Politics Lecturer, St Hugh's College, University of Oxford; co-convenor, Institute of Ideas Postgraduate Forum; co-organiser, Institute of Ideas Current Affairs Forum
Simon Fanshawe
writer, broadcaster and non-exec director in the public and private sector; chair of University of Sussex; previous winner, Perrier Award for comedy; co-founder, Stonewall, the lesbian and gay equality lobby
Mick Hume
editor-at-large, spiked; columnist, The Times
Tony Elliott
founder and chairman, Time Out Group Ltd.
Minette Marrin
columnist, The Sunday Times; broadcaster
Chair:
James Panton
tutor in politics, Hertford College, Oxford; co-founder, The Manifesto Club
Maria Grasso
Politics Lecturer, St Hugh's College, University of Oxford; co-convenor, Institute of Ideas Postgraduate Forum; co-organiser, Institute of Ideas Current Affairs Forum
Simon Fanshawe
writer, broadcaster and non-exec director in the public and private sector; chair of University of Sussex; previous winner, Perrier Award for comedy; co-founder, Stonewall, the lesbian and gay equality lobby
Mick Hume
editor-at-large, spiked; columnist, The Times
Tony Elliott
founder and chairman, Time Out Group Ltd.
Minette Marrin
columnist, The Sunday Times; broadcaster
Chair:
James Panton
tutor in politics, Hertford College, Oxford; co-founder, The Manifesto Club
Sure, Minette Marrin might be a bit right wing these days, but in 1968 she was a young student at Cambridge, and had some tales to tell of that time.
But it wasn't all just fun and nostalgia. The founder of Time Out magazine thought the radical left at the time were responsible for squandering many chances of moving society foreward (with their revolutionary romanticism).
Second to last session I went to (with six others going on at the same time) was What does it mean to be an American?
This was quite fun too, as one of the invited speakers was a radical (anti-Bush, anti-imperialist) conspiracy theorist.
And last one of the day was a toss up between: From Fatwa to Jihad. The Rushdie Affair and its legacy
and: Free speech on campus - Should we ditch No Platform?
I ended going to the latter one, just to see how it would go. The speaker supporting ''No Platform'' for fascists and assorted Islamic extremists was Wes Streeting, the President of the National Union of Students. He gave it his best shot, but he was out on his own really and didn't get much backing from the skeptical audience. But it was good natured.
Obviously I can see that this politics does not go down well on this forum, and rather than being seen for what it says of itself (a battle of ideas), the way some people view things, this will just de dismissed as ''something off the internet''.
Where that leaves a thread like ''What are progressive politics?'' I don't know.
It would seem that personal debating skills are more important than ideas themselves.
Whereas, I see the importance being the other way round.
Of course I understand why some people had one quick look at the Spiked stuff and said ''No Way'' - but I think it's an aquired taste.
They don't help their cause by being too OTT sometimes, (as well as there being some grandstanding and egos involved), but when I remember that fox hunting can't even be discussed on this forum because of the passions it can arouse (from those opposed to it), I know they can't be wrong about everything.
Even when they are wrong, they are getting something right IMO. And that is, being broad minded, and willing to look that bit further.
Many of the sessions were filmed by FORA.tv, so hopefully I'll be able to see some of the stuff I missed when they put it online.
Lets see if this works 
QUOTE(pink shay @ Feb 7 2008, 07:00 PM)
Lets see if this works
Works for me, Shay.
Attachment of the year
YAAAY I still dont quite understand how I did it
I still dont quite understand how I did it
Glad you did!
FWIW, it works on my home laptop too
FWIW, it works on my home laptop too
What I did in that first post was to use ''the opportunity'' of that issue being raised in the media, to bring the issue to the forum.
The fact that it was raised in The Sun, and might have been totally made up didn't really matter.
(Though of course it probably wasn't wise to use it, because of the Anti-Sun feeling on this forum).
I forget about that sometimes, as I am sourounded by ''tabloid people'' every day and tend to think nothing of it, (even if I don't care for the politics).
I sometimes drive a council dust cart, so being amongst such people is something that feels normal to me.
So it was just the issue of community, belonging, ''tribal'' and cultural identity that I was bringing up.
It's a very complex area, and of course can only be discussed if people are willing to be reasonable about things.
I first visited Belfast in 1983, and I met a local protestant (nice) bloke, who took me on a walk around Sandy Row one day. I clearly remember him telling me back then, that Sandow Row was now a shadow of its former self, as much of the population had moved away and old houses had been knocked down.
Loss of community, change, progress. I have felt these were legitimate areas for discussion.
Community rivalries and jealousies are real in a place like Sandy Row.
Understandable too. Even if you don't approve of such things, (which no one on this form does).
Walking along the Shankill road a few years back, and then north up Woodvale road, the lampposts were of course, decorated with ''tribal markings''. Then right at its junction with Crumlin road, there was the last (or first) marker to show the area to the south was loyalist - a bloody great flag pole with a union jack flying from it.
Across the road, nationalist Ardoyne started.
You have been away (or at least haven't posted much Tafkabo), and things have got a little unreasonable on here at times.
I don't deny ''my style'' has sometimes been somewhat brash. But if my intentions had been trusted, that should have been OK. The thing is, (as you can see) my intentions have never been trusted by some people, from day one.
I really 'hit a wall'.
I don't think it was only to do with my style or ''racism'' (which it has been called several times).
I think there is a genuine lack of will to engage (not just with me) but with anything that smacks of conservativism.
I have been asking how do we deal with conservative arguments. ''You don't'', seems to be the reply.
I mean, for example in that last Economist clip I just quoted. The stuff about family breakdown being one of the causes of of poverty. That's just a big no no to much of the left.
It's racism pure and simple that is the reason for problems that affect minorities.
See this bellow? That's me two weeks into joining this forum (the only one I had ever been on) asking for a bit of help to bring up some articles by John McWhorter.
Believe it or not, back then I didn't know how to do links and quotes, and I thought this American commentator I had become aware of while I was out in the States, was saying some interesting and controversial things.
And lastly, I mentioned, a few books and articles without response. One of them by John H Mc Whorter, called "Losing the Race : Self-Sabotage in Black America.
And even if its about racial issues in the usa, thats a lot closer to what I hoped this thread could be about than people beating each other up on line.
Would anyone look up some reviews of his book, or read on article or two by him, and say anything about? Or put them on as a link. I can't do it. Its a small favour to ask, I think as I'm very slow at typing, and have put a lot of effort into this
to no avail so far.
To this day, no matter how many times I asked, John McWhorter has been somewhere that the forum (with a couple of notable exceptions like LeftintheUS and JBoyd) has refused to go near.
When put like that, it does sound a bit odd doesn't it?
Tafkabo, I read what you said in that last post with interest, and I do take it ito consideration, but I wonder how much you have missed. Even if I had rilled people up somewhat like you say - replying with ''racist - homophobic - misogynist - bigot'', is a bit OTT in any normal person's opinion (I would have thought, since I'm none of those things).
I think I put people's noses out because I continued with some simple ideas that many people didn't want to touch with a barge pole (which is probably why I got voted ''troll of the year'' )
Have your yin, but try to pick up on a bit of yang too. Otherwise grasshopper, you can end up in the pc badlands
Welcome to The Baarsjes - (the little fishes)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14kristol.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6032801909.html
http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id=d87...e7-f5059cd0bfbd
http://www.theroot.com/id/44794
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Crouch
http://unclevinny.wordpress.com/2008/01/18...john-mcwhorter/
The fact that it was raised in The Sun, and might have been totally made up didn't really matter.
(Though of course it probably wasn't wise to use it, because of the Anti-Sun feeling on this forum).
I forget about that sometimes, as I am sourounded by ''tabloid people'' every day and tend to think nothing of it, (even if I don't care for the politics).
I sometimes drive a council dust cart, so being amongst such people is something that feels normal to me.
So it was just the issue of community, belonging, ''tribal'' and cultural identity that I was bringing up.
It's a very complex area, and of course can only be discussed if people are willing to be reasonable about things.
I first visited Belfast in 1983, and I met a local protestant (nice) bloke, who took me on a walk around Sandy Row one day. I clearly remember him telling me back then, that Sandow Row was now a shadow of its former self, as much of the population had moved away and old houses had been knocked down.
Loss of community, change, progress. I have felt these were legitimate areas for discussion.
Community rivalries and jealousies are real in a place like Sandy Row.
Understandable too. Even if you don't approve of such things, (which no one on this form does).
Walking along the Shankill road a few years back, and then north up Woodvale road, the lampposts were of course, decorated with ''tribal markings''. Then right at its junction with Crumlin road, there was the last (or first) marker to show the area to the south was loyalist - a bloody great flag pole with a union jack flying from it.
Across the road, nationalist Ardoyne started.
You have been away (or at least haven't posted much Tafkabo), and things have got a little unreasonable on here at times.
I don't deny ''my style'' has sometimes been somewhat brash. But if my intentions had been trusted, that should have been OK. The thing is, (as you can see) my intentions have never been trusted by some people, from day one.
I really 'hit a wall'.
I don't think it was only to do with my style or ''racism'' (which it has been called several times).
I think there is a genuine lack of will to engage (not just with me) but with anything that smacks of conservativism.
I have been asking how do we deal with conservative arguments. ''You don't'', seems to be the reply.
I mean, for example in that last Economist clip I just quoted. The stuff about family breakdown being one of the causes of of poverty. That's just a big no no to much of the left.
It's racism pure and simple that is the reason for problems that affect minorities.
See this bellow? That's me two weeks into joining this forum (the only one I had ever been on) asking for a bit of help to bring up some articles by John McWhorter.
Believe it or not, back then I didn't know how to do links and quotes, and I thought this American commentator I had become aware of while I was out in the States, was saying some interesting and controversial things.
QUOTE(damon @ Jan 15 2006, 03:07 PM)
And lastly, I mentioned, a few books and articles without response. One of them by John H Mc Whorter, called "Losing the Race : Self-Sabotage in Black America.
And even if its about racial issues in the usa, thats a lot closer to what I hoped this thread could be about than people beating each other up on line.
Would anyone look up some reviews of his book, or read on article or two by him, and say anything about? Or put them on as a link. I can't do it. Its a small favour to ask, I think as I'm very slow at typing, and have put a lot of effort into this
to no avail so far.
To this day, no matter how many times I asked, John McWhorter has been somewhere that the forum (with a couple of notable exceptions like LeftintheUS and JBoyd) has refused to go near.
When put like that, it does sound a bit odd doesn't it?
Tafkabo, I read what you said in that last post with interest, and I do take it ito consideration, but I wonder how much you have missed. Even if I had rilled people up somewhat like you say - replying with ''racist - homophobic - misogynist - bigot'', is a bit OTT in any normal person's opinion (I would have thought, since I'm none of those things).
I think I put people's noses out because I continued with some simple ideas that many people didn't want to touch with a barge pole (which is probably why I got voted ''troll of the year''
)Have your yin, but try to pick up on a bit of yang too. Otherwise grasshopper, you can end up in the pc badlands
Welcome to The Baarsjes - (the little fishes)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14kristol.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6032801909.html
http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id=d87...e7-f5059cd0bfbd
http://www.theroot.com/id/44794
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Crouch
http://unclevinny.wordpress.com/2008/01/18...john-mcwhorter/
test reply
For those people who didn't get Jeremy Clarkson's 'humour a couple of months ago ......
Oh dear. It seems some animal rights weird beards have got their hairy undershorts in a twist because Gordon Ramsay has used some ferrets to kill a rabbit.
I don't understand. Gordon was killing a rabbit so he could put it in a pot with some onions and a splash of red wine and make a tasty lunch for his family. A fox on the other hand .......
........... heres' a bit more from today: (And can I just say, I'm not a Top Gear fan or anything, and he is a bit lame and you can tell that it's overwritten ...... but it's still kind of funny).
Last night in a Thai resturant I wanted a cigarette. But I couldn't go out the front door because
QUOTE(damon @ May 24 2008, 10:02 AM)
Oh dear. It seems some animal rights weird beards have got their hairy undershorts in a twist because Gordon Ramsay has used some ferrets to kill a rabbit.
I don't understand. Gordon was killing a rabbit so he could put it in a pot with some onions and a splash of red wine and make a tasty lunch for his family. A fox on the other hand .......
........... heres' a bit more from today: (And can I just say, I'm not a Top Gear fan or anything, and he is a bit lame and you can tell that it's overwritten ...... but it's still kind of funny).
Last night in a Thai resturant I wanted a cigarette. But I couldn't go out the front door because
Neither Do I Now Geof....its depressing..the news of war..soldiers dying i see enough of this in my dreams...then it comes true. 
Luca - who are you replying to?
Glad to see your posts are just as barking as ever.
Glad to see your posts are just as barking as ever.
oooh, that's a bit mean -
at least Pete didn't mean to be rude.
at least Pete didn't mean to be rude.
What's your problem Damon? I wasn't talking to you. If I'm rude, I probably meant to be.
No problem, I was just wondering (out loud) if you were always like that.
What I mean is, you often seem so prickly and when annoyed, vociferous.
It's a bit scarey really.
What I mean is, you often seem so prickly and when annoyed, vociferous.
It's a bit scarey really.
No, I'm just prickly with people I don't like. Anyone who knows me will tell you I'm not like that with people I'm friends with.
And yes, I am scary.
And yes, I am scary.
QUOTE(TAFKABO @ Dec 14 2008, 02:47 PM)
Let's take another example, one closer to home in my experience. I've recently had to witness media outlet after media outlet heap praise upon the film Hunger, just as I often see people refer to Bobby Sands as an heroic figure. I know many here on the forums would regard him as such. I am not using a figure of speech when I tell you that it sickens me to see the likes of him being lauded or called anything other than a murdering terrorist bastard.
But that's life, I also know that I value freedom of speech and it would be arrogant and egotistical of me to demand others refrain from using terminology I find objectionable.
I speak as someone who had their family and friends lives endangered by that scum bastard's organsation, and that still doesn't give me the right to insist everyone see things as as I see them.
ther's a price to be paid for free speech and that's having to put up with seeing and hearing things we find objectionable and offensive.
QUOTE
I know many here on the forums would regard him as such.
That's an interesting assertion to have made. I wonder who those many people are. Not me for one (I'd like to make clear).
But I also wouldn't use TAFKABO'S (in my opinion) symplistic view of Bobby Sands and the IRA either.
TAFKABO describes himself as a Unionist, and (in my opinion) as such, has to take ownership of some small part of the blame for Ireland's sorry history. I said somewhere else the other day that I find Unionism to be a reactionary idealogy, and that it really doesn't have many redeeming points.
90 years ago, my dad's father was in the IRA in rural County Waterford. I can take some pride in that, because overall he and his comrades were fighting for a just cause. Not one of their choosing, but on forced apon them by history and imperialism.
If my grandfather had been a member of the Ulster Volunteers back then, while maybe able to understand the time and the circumstances, it wouldn't have been a source of pride for me today.
Even though they fought and died heroically in world war one, they were still a backward force - prepared to fight against my grandfather and the wishes of the majority of the Irish people.
These days I'm somewhat of a unionist myself, having realised that the ''prize'' of a United Ireland wasn't anyway near worth the pain it would bring about, and that it's better to let sleeping dogs lie.
I'm very proud of my ability to scare - especially when it means it upsets stupid people.
it takes all sorts too make this world no one is really better then another but open your heart i say..and 2 those you cant ignore them.
QUOTE(ianch @ Feb 24 2008, 03:30 PM)
test
QUOTE(Sarah lady @ May 7 2008, 01:54 PM)
And yes, I am scary.
QUOTE(wilburpig @ Nov 29 2008, 06:10 PM)
*puts hand up*
Since when has there been thread quotas?
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QUOTE(nevski @ Nov 29 2008, 07:22 PM)
since damon thought it was a good stick to hit people with....
It's the wrong way round people.
Wilburpig likes a chat (as do I), doesn't say much political, but suggests I might have Asperger syndrome because I ask her for a comment on something like this.
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